Have you heard of Marl the Stock Robot? Google “Marl” and click the first ad you see. You don’t have to read the whole page because I have summed it up in the next paragraph. Please click the ad anyway. You’ll understand why in a minute.
That page tells a story about the invention of “the first commercially available stock picking robot” which is available for $28,000 per license, which includes a week of training in the programmer’s home. The script assumes you can’t afford the software and offers you a stock tips newsletter subscription for only $47.
Maybe it’s a great newsletter. I don’t care about that. I am interested in the Marl software which, at $28,000, is out of the reach of anyone earnestly reading that page but vastly under-priced if it does what they claim.
Normally you would reject this sort of offer on the “too good to be true” rule alone but I wasn’t satisfied. I went looking for the software and I didn’t find any information leading to the purchase of a Marl software license. I did find a large number of sites echoing the same story and offering the same newsletter.
The site is one of a great many taking part in an affiliate marketing scheme to sell a newsletter subscription. This is just one of countless schemes telling lies in order to sell something. This is why I told you to click the ad rather than publish a link. They are paying for those ads, baiting real suckers, lying about a non-existent robot. Your clicks cost them money.
I don’t know whether the newsletter is any good. Maybe it can teach you enough to make some lucky investments. But if you want to make real money from Marl, I suggest you set up an affiliate marketing web site to sell that newsletter and buy all the ads you can get for $47.
Update 1: This is how a person can make money on a stock tip scam and why the government puts them away:
The volume of distribution of a newsletter such as the one at issue can rapidly become large enough that its membership, acting on the tips they receive, create an artificial demand for the penny stock and consequently cause the stock price to rise. If one reacts quickly enough and buys the stock before this wave of demand comes to market, it may be possible to realize a very high margin of profit where no real value exists in the merits of the company being traded. In this scenario, the biggest winner will be the first person to know about the tip and act on it, i.e. the publisher of the newsletter. Subscribers can profit, too, but they must buy fast and sell before the artificial demand bubble pops and the price regains parity with the actual market value.
Update 2: A reader going by the name of Mistlethrush left a very important comment below. It reveals the inner workings of the Marl software!
sorry, looks like I started reading from the wrong end.
Thanks to our humble guinea pig for the heads up and the link.
Glad I didn’t pay the $50.
oh well, back to charting…..
Mistlethrush, good job on the guinea pig thing. I have taken the plunge an found that on the last 3 out of 4 picks Marl did in fact produce the same pick as the newsletter. Here’s the most interesting part … Michael, the supposed Doubling Stocks guy, sends out a heads up the day or two before the stock pick is sent out via the newsletter. By running Marl during the daytime the day ‘before’ the newsletter pick is sent out you can buy the stock before the end of market the day before the pick is sent out. People have been complaining that they get the newsletter pick in the morning and by the time the market opens or by the time they get in the stock has already shot way up. Well I suspect the only people making any money are the ones with Marl who have figured out to run the daytime before the newsletter.
Anyway, I’ve been following th thread and think it’s awesome that Mistlethrush is going to do an independent test. Please be sure to test what I’ve just mentioned. I think you’ll find it to be correct. Even if the software is hokey and they’re just sticking the stock pick into an SQL table, it seems that maybe they’re a bit lazy and are putting it in earlier than we think.
cio
Sheri, whether Marl generates the same picks as the newsletter turns out to not be the point. The point is the picks are not generated based on any analysis, technical or fundamental, whatsoever. They are generated based on whatever the marl-masters feel like pumping. It is possible to ride the inertia they generate — as long as you’re aware it’s not based on analysis.
Also, yesterday’s pick Marl generated was NRDS.PK (Nord resources), I ran it again later and it returned NRD, which isn’t a symbol for anything. I ran it again, again NRD. The fourth time it was back to NRDS.PK. Weird, maybe they were loading up their database with today’s pick when it returned the NRD.
Anyhow today’s tout is ERFW.OB. Again, this stock is the result of the Marl-masters deciding which stock to pump — NOT the result of any analysis or any other legitimate stock picking practice. Sooooo, if you buy the stock — its a risky move. I intend to paper trade $1000 of ERFW.
This is *absolutely* a pump & dump scheme. Make no mistake. The source code of Marl make that unquestionably obvious — utterly no analysis is done in Marl.
Your humble guinea pig,
/Mistlethrush
P.S. Again, if you want the Marl program, you can get it for absolutely free at : http://www.doublingstocks.com/downloadmarl.zip
No need to buy on Ebay, or anywhere else…
Well, day one has come to a close and ERFW did quite well. It opened at 1.14 and closed at 1.20 for an increase of 5.26%, on a 58% increase in volume. What one might expect in a pump & dump scenario. Artificially inflated price and volume, then the puppet-masters dump it, and the price drops.
I checked Marl (dorky name — yes I know where it came from, but still dorky), and the puppet-masters have not posted tomorrow’s tout yet.
I got a full refund from ClickBank, they are a good business — sad that they look bad by association with the Marl humans.
Lastly, I plan to throw together a web-site to track my Marl experience, so I don’t continually clutter up this blog. Once I got it squared away, I’ll post the URL here. May be a couple days — Christmas is a busy time of year.
Your humble (but no longer out $144) guinea pig,
/Mistlethrush
The suckerrugh… I mean subscribers who pay for Marl get the newsletter a few hours before the newsletter subscribers who don’t fork over the extra cash so some of them can profit if they move, in theory anyway. One problem with using Marl to get a jump on the bagholders is that “michael” doesn’t send out the newsletters when he says ie, he sends out an email saying watch your inbox tomorrow AM, then the email doesn’t show and after market he claims he and his “team” decided to wait so you could get a lower entry point, etc etc. The guys a Professional.
Marl does nothing, they download the pick from DS’s server and that has been established a couple times each person coming to the exact same conclusion that MARL is no robot at all. The above link to the almost thirty page thread @ onlinetradersforum soundly exposes the scam and the whole thread is certainly worth a read to anyone interested in this Miracle Robotic Scamportunity, unless of course you’re “Already Rich”..
“Alex Hunter” “Michael” whatever name he’s using on one of his numerous scam websites is a scammer, doublingstocks is a scam, marl is a scam, fraud.
I find it interesting that the “12 new computers in lock up” look like six old computers in my first college house. Just an observation.
Did any of you watch the online video showing Marl’s proof of performance? The first thing I noticed was that the user was on the UK Google Website. Anything from out of the UK should be suspicious to all since they are typically out of the reach of our law enforcement.
From all of the evidence read here is these postings one should conclude without a doubt that there is a scam working here. Always remember the first rule concerning marketed offers: “If Sounds to Good to be True it Probably/Most Likely IS!!!
We have all had our time wasted and we cannot get a refund for that. I do appreciate what I have learned from each scam studied and that is valuable. Too bad there are those of us without a savy resolve to prove things out before taking the plunge into things far more sinister than this.
We are all capable of being scammed, just look at how much time each of us have spent on this matter even if we didn’t buy into it…
Blessings!
Jon
When signing up for Marl, I THINK (I am not sure) that there is small print (terms and conditions) that state something about $75,000. I don’t know if the $75,000 is what the Marl site owners get as a promotional fee for helping to sell certain stocks? I admit that when I see tiny print going on for many lines I just click “Accept” and don’t read the stuff.
So I asked ClickBank for a refund.
doublingstocks.com and pokerbobby.com are both registered with GoDaddy.
I checked the whois info for both, and found the Admin and Tech contacts for both sites are the same:
Hunter, Alex hunter.alex@gmail.com
fusionwebspace
12 Well Ridge Close
Red House Farm
Whitley Bay,
Tyne and Wear
NE25 9PN
United Kingdom
07835191190
That’s in the UK folks, not in Seattle – and explains the 44 code in the phone number (+44 is the international code for the UK).
I used http://192.com to search for “Hunter” at the “NE25 9PN” post code, and found two people from the 2002 – 2006 electoral roll: Brian J Hunter and June D Hunter.
So either Alex doesn’t exist, or he hadn’t reached 16 years old by 2006, or this is some relative’s address (eg, his mum+dad’s house).
Don’t send them your money. You’re being scammed.
Definitely hit up ClickBank for a refund — from my experience and what I’ve read, they’re quite cooperative. Everyone should ask for a refund.
I took a look at Marl’s database ad the puppet-masters have posted their ‘recommendations’ through the weekend APTD.OB for Saturday and LDHG.PK for Sunday. Odd since the market is closed those days.
Speaking of LDHG (their recommendation for Friday) — OMG! did it tank. Dropped like a bag of nickels. Opened at .0029 and plunged to close at .0014 (53% loss). No ‘Pump Inertia’ that time.
So there…
Your humble guinea pig,
/Mistlethrush
Mistlethrush, I purchased the newsletter last week.. before finding this website.. I plan on asking for a refund but would like to paper trade this..
So I downloaded MARL from the site you posted.. After unzipping the file and clicking on the Icon of MARl a “file not found ” posted. Any suggestions to fixing that..
Thanks in advance
I purchased the newsletter and have not even received that . I contacted the customer service twice through email and got no response. I then requested for a refund of my $47 and heard nothing back. My next step is to contact clickbank and get a refund for my $47 and for my $97 I got duped into spending for marl. And yes.. after I got the link I too realized that the link wasn’t protected and anyone could download the software for free.. that was my first clue this whole thing is a scam.
If you want a refund just call clickbank customer service 800-390-6035. I called and they gave me a refund of the $47 and the $97 for Marl and didn’t even ask for a reason. I have seen posts that these guys are advertising on major networks and shows. Which ones?? I am starting a campaign to get them shut down.
This is an obvious get-rich quick scam full of LIES. It displays all the classic signs,but the most obvious is:
* Outlandish and rapid profits:
They claim that $5000 investment is now worth over $300,000 in four months. They claim a “consistent 80%+” *weekly* rate of return. Anyone familiar with exponential growth knows that this is an outright LIE.
For example, a paltry $1000 initial investment, at 80% per week, for the 4 months/18 weeks the “system” has been available would return the following:
$1000(1 + .8)^14 = $3,748,000.00
In ONLY one year, your $1000 dollar investment would’ve grown to, wait for it……. 18 quadrillion dollars.
One must ask themselves why on earth would the creator of such potent s/w need to sell its predictions for $47…
I especially enjoyed the reverse engineering of the above poster and the database of just ticker symbols.
Just like any get rich quick scheme, suckers will buy it on the hope/dream of escaping their problems, which is about all these programs offer, false hope (and a lighter wallet).
Ashamed to say…I bit. I’ve gone to Clickbank and they say it will take two days for the refund. I was also one of those who bit on the “only 2 spots left”. What bothers me…everyone is asking the question…”why would someone do this for $144?” They collected my credit card info and that worries me since I was a victim in 2001 of credit card identity theft. Thoughts?