First few days, sweating for free money. Rate: about 2 ped per hour.
That’s enough to buy you a gun and a bit of ammo. Early hunting loot does not repay for ammo costs.
Fourth day I spent 10 dollars and bought mining gear, a healing tool, and some very basic armor upgrades.
The next few days were lots of fun as I searched for mining spots and explored the vast world.
However, just as before, the mining “hits” eventually were returning less than the cost of the mining probes… so… after four days of 5-6hour sessions eventually the funds ran out.
I sold the healing unit, and half the specialty mining tools… got 20 ped back.
Went out mining again… all 20 mining attempts returned nothing.

Today, I spent the morning sweating for a couple ped. Mined again. Nothing.

So here’s the deal-

You will pay real money to enjoy the game the way it was intended to be played. Ignore the posts by people who said they didnt spend a dime… 2 ped an hour for sweating is the equivalent of you being paid 20 cents an hour for your efforts.

Horrible.

I figure that you will have to pay in around 40 dollars per month if you are an active player… that’s about equal to 3 to 4 hours per day…. still well below the MA target rate of a dollar an hour but…

You Will Still Have To Pay to Play.

End of line.

I almost feel bad for making money by trading/reselling and thus indirectly (slightly) driving prices up for a PED or two of profits (even though I always keep my prices fair, but this doesn’t change the fact that I buy stuff 2-3% below the market and sell it 1-2% above the market price and kind of prevent people who really need it to buy it cheaply).

But this is the only thing which involves real life skill and is possible without huge investments of 10.000-50.000 USD which is hilarious for a game! Only a total maniac or rich brat would do something like this and spend such amounts in a few pixels inside an online casino game. However, trading is not very fun. Basically in the past 2-3 years I just logged in to buy stuff from AH, calculate profit margins and put it back in and log out and do this twice a week. The fun stuff (hunting, mining, crafting) is unpayable for a mortal unless you want to hunt snablesnots for 5-10 years.

I’ve played it for years (since 2001, a few months before it went gold/released) and I know what I’m talking about. All the shit about dmg/pec calculations are useless. Yes, you can reduce your loss somewhat, but this won’t make you profit! It will just allow you to last an hour or two (or day, depends on your play style, weapon and ammo usage per time and of course the money you pump in this casino). But in general, you will always lose.

The only way to profit is luck. Only if you are lucky to get one of the rare globals (small wins of 50-250 PEDs) or some HoFs (bigger loot which one of the 20 highest this day or week) or the very very very very rare All time Hofs (comparable to jackpot in a casino or the jackpot in the lottery).

Everyone who tells you, he constantly makes profit is either
a) a liar
b) is a trader (or shop owner for this case) or owns a piece of land he rents and manages good (doesn’t require ingame skill, only real skill and SHITLOADS of real money. Expect like 5.000-25.000$ (USD not PED!!!) to pump into a land + another 25.000 to populate/manage/advertise it etc in order to be profitable with this piece of land

The general rule for Crafting/Hunting/Mining profession is: The average return rate is around 60%. This means if you use 50$ in ammo (and this is not much, it’s enough for like 2 hours of hunting with an MK II which is still a very beginners weapon) and go hunting, your will loot around 30$ worth of loot. So you basically lost 20$ in only 1-2 hours! That’s what some people have to work 2-4 hours in real world to earn so much.

And the reason why this game is nothing else than gambling is the way Hunting/Crafting/Mining works. You pull the lever (ingame this means: Shoot at a monster, attempt to try an item or place a mine) and then following happens:
a) You don’t get anything (crafting failed, no mining node found or the monster didn’t had any loot). For Hunting and crafting this happens around 20% of the time, for mining it happens around 40-60% of the time!!!!
b) You won a little bit, but SIGNIFICANTLY less than you put in. This happens around 90% of the time when a) jump in
c) You won a medium amount. You won more than you invested, but not enough to cover your losses from b). This happens quite rarely and in about 5-6% of the time a) don’t kicks in
d) You won a high amount. This happens very rarely. In less than 1% of the cases. This is often enough to cover your losses in this run and give you a little to medium profit. However in most cases it’s not enough to cover profit of your last 5-10 runs
e) You won the jackpot. This happens as rare as winning the jackpot in real life lottery. But if it happens, it will cover your next 10-200 runs on crafting, hunting or mining. This happens in around 0.00001% of all cases

End of story? In 70% of the cases you will lose around 30-40% of the money you put in this slot machine called Entropia, in 20% you will only lose 5-15% and in 5% you will break even. In less than 1% you will make profit and in less than 0.0001% you will become rich. This is the typical scheme which casino and illegal gambling works.

Entropia has nothing to do with skill (unless you are trader or land owner, which both aren’t official ingame professions as no ingame skills exists for those). In Hunting you can’t determinate by skill if you hit or miss. The game will do this for you, even if you accurately aim to the monsters body and it stands next to you, server will often tell you you missed.

You can’t also calculate or determinate by skill the profits by skill. For example, if you could say: I kill 10 atroxes and spend 1500 Ammo on which costs me 15.00 and I know every atrox gives exactly 2 PED of loot it would make 20 PED of loot and for killing them I have 4 PED decay so in all I have 19.00 PED expenses and 20.00 PED loot, so I made a profit of 1.00 PED IF I never miss (i.e. use my real skill to aim accurately), then things would be different! Or if you aim good and hit the monster in the head you do double or trippe damage than if you shoot at it’s foot. This is (real life) skill based. Entropia is not, it’s luck based. And luck based games which involves money are called gambling in every country on this world and is only allowed if strongly controlled by government. Entropia is not governed by government!

But this is not the case, personal skill doesn’t matter much in Entropia, luck is main factor.

read my squidoo lens on it entropia universe

If you put a little money in it and trade well, you’ll make a little money out of it. Some people put in big money, like ship owners, or better, land-owners, and make a decent return. But it takes patience, and few people make a real life living out of it. It’s crazy to think that one can, without investing a great deal into it.

It’s too simple to say that it’s just a casino or a scam.

The problem is that people who are not gamers by nature, think it sucks. Whereas gamers, who are happy to put money into it, think to themselves something along the lines of, I’ll put the equivalent monthly sum that I would if I were taking out a subscription to World of Warcraft.

I knowz people who lost on here and its like the other guy said, unlicensed and unregulated online gambling. Thats supposed to be illegal now in USA. Can someone whos not affliliated or employed by Entropia comment on that

ENTROPIA IS A SCAM! ENTROPIA CHEATS PEOPLE OF THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY! ENTROPIA SHOULD BE BANNED! PLANET CALYPSO IS A SCAM!!

HOW I KNOW… MAXED CREDIT CARD 10K USD… WHEN I LEFT THE GAME A YEAR BACK I WAS lvl42 MINER… NEVER GOT ANYTHING TO SHOW FOR IT…

DONT GIVE ME THE BS ABOUT , IF I CANT MAKE MONEY I AM STUPID BECUASE I MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IRL THROUGH MY BUSINESS WHICH USED TO PAY MA FOR SHIT… IF YOU THINK YOU ARE MAKING MONEY IN THIS GAME… APART FROM THE ‘CHOSEN FEW’>>>YOU ARE LYING TO YOURSELF AND YOU ARE STUPID!!!